[B18C5-Civic]

here is my issue:

1993 Civic sedan

- Speedo is not working, so i dont know how it got a roady
- Has pod not in airbox
- No spare tyre
- 17" rims..
- no mod plate but is registered with b18c5 engine.. Dont know if u need one..
- car is too low

looks like The Guy that did the roadworthy has changed the kms to be lower 30kms to what it is currently..
There is no way that the vss ever worked because i have had an auto electrician look at it and it is actualy inside the gear box were it is broken.

i payed a fair amount for this car and expected to be given a car with a genuine roadworthy.

I called the old owner and asked him about it, he said that it worked and it was just the plug fallen out, wich it was not. i asked him to pay to get it fixed and he carried on that it was no longer his problem, i told him i would be getting it checked out and all defects noted by a mechanic, and he said go ahead, its not a dodgy roadworthy and its not my problem.

Also we agreed to change the rims over before the sale, and i was driving home from work to find that the front tires had no camber and one had busted. I called him about this and all he said was that it was our agreement to change the rims, i said yeah, but i expect to have tread on them and not be driving home and they burst on me... he continued with his "it was our agreement".

By this stage i am quite pee'd off..

I am going to get the mechanic to look over it and tell me all the defects, then give him a call and see if he either wants to buy the car back of me or pay for the problems, if he says no do i threaten him with "okay ill take you and the roadworthy guy to court over it?"

By no means am i out to get the mechanic who did the roady, i just feel asthough i have been scammed and it is total bullshit he is not willing to pay for the problem with speedo, that should never have past the roadworthy.

What are your opinions??

Thanks.

[HOON69]

Think you should of got it inspected to be entirely sure but because you took the word of a complete stranger
i would contact the roady bloke directly and see if he could help tell him there's no way the speedo was rwc etc and see if his willing to rectify the problem cause last thing he wants is his licence to be stripped off him.

i still would tell this wanker your going to a lawyer and taking him to court unless his rectifies or buys back his dunger.

[PANDA]

did you buy this car unseen or something. roadworthy does not cover some of the things you stated above. not saying your in the wrong but you really set yourself up to get screwed

[smoke]

ring the mechanic/roadworthy person up, and tell them the issues you will have and ask them what they are willing to do about getting them fixed.
if they want to make you pay for them, threaten legal action.
if they agree to fix some/all of them then your problem is solved.

dad bought a car which the bloke had no heater in, and the muffler was patched up with some tin and silicon riveted to where the leak was.
the mechanic fixed it all free of charge.

[AsterisK]

as above, defects do not void a roadworthy. roadworthy covers basic safety and general condition of the car. roadworthy will not fail because you have an atmo bov, or if you are missing a mod plate, for example.

[PANDA]

A roadworthy is a few basic checks to make sure a car is safe to be on the road and isnt causing excessive pollution. Its in no way there to make sure you get a quality car or to stop you getting screwed over with a piece of shit

[blv]

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- Speedo is not working, so i dont know how it got a roady

This is required for roadworthy.

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- Has pod not in airbox

Are you saying that is has a POD, or an empty Airbox? The law is it can have a pod filter, so long as the base of the POD filter is secured to the 'body' of the car. Like a bracket bolted to the inner guard.

If it has no air filter inside the airbox, this is just bad for your engine, not a RWC requirement

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- No spare tyre

Believe it or not, this is not a requirement for a RWC. Unless the law changed since early 2009.

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- 17" rims..

If the tyre placard states that the car can have 15" rims, its not a requirement for RWC

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- no mod plate but is registered with b18c5 engine.. Dont know if u need one..

Definately a requirement

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- car is too low

By how low? Must be over 100mm ground clearance, and retain 2/3 of the original travel. This can be interpreted wrong. I will try and explain. For example, if you have 100mm up travel and 100mm down travel, you have a total of 200mm. This means you need to retain 134mm of your travel. so obivously, your shock is still going to move the 200mm so you cant pull that card. What it means is you must have 67mm of up and 67mm of down travel. obviously your going to have more than 67mm up, but its the 67mm of down that they will be concerned over.

You can ignore the up and down and just say 2/3's of 100mm is 67mm, so thats what you need to retain, but i explained it the long way because it refers to lifting a 4WD too.



Now about taking the seller to court. It wont actually get you far, because he was under the impression from your RWC guy that it was legal, therfore clearing him of any responsibilty. Your action towards getting compensation should be directed at the Mechanic. Most will want to fix the issue to keep their licence as stated above. But be nice about it. You dont want to back him a corner straight away.

Hope this helps.

-Brendan

[B18C5-Civic]

it has a pod not in a bracket.. free to move

okay, i will give them a call tomorrow to see if they are willing to help out with the speedo.. that is the main reason why i am so pissed.. roady was done at a wreckers so they may be willing to help..

i dont want to take it to court, i just want the fn speedo fixed so i know how fast im going and how many k's i have done..

Thanks for advise, let you know how it pans out.

This post has been edited by Cherp_32: 09 September 2010 - 08:03 PM

[avh72]

tell the guys who issued it you'll talk to the dept of trnsport about it, if they get busted doing dodgy roady's they loose their liscence.

[Dragin]

it is against the law to change or modify a car for 3 months after the rwc is issued.
forget the guy who you bought the car from you are not going to get anywhere with him.
if i were you id take the car to another inspection station,pay for an rwc(tell them your selling it)
then contact the origonal issuer with the faults.if he does nothing you may need to get transport involved.
chances are the guy who sold you the car knows these people and will get reemed by the inspection station.
if not they will have to rectify any faults or face having their licence canceled.

[hawkiiie]

Dragin, on 09 September 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

it is against the law to change or modify a car for 3 months after the rwc is issued.
forget the guy who you bought the car from you are not going to get anywhere with him.
if i were you id take the car to another inspection station,pay for an rwc(tell them your selling it)
then contact the origonal issuer with the faults.if he does nothing you may need to get transport involved.
chances are the guy who sold you the car knows these people and will get reemed by the inspection station.
if not they will have to rectify any faults or face having their licence canceled.

where does it say that for 3 months after a rwc your not aloud any mods?

as far as i was aware rwc was just to get rego and its defect proof for x amount of time...

although correct me if im wrong

This post has been edited by hawkiiie: 09 September 2010 - 09:38 PM

[smoke]

taken off qld government site.


For dealers, certificates are valid for three months or 1000 kilometres (whichever comes first) from the date of issue.

For private sellers, safety certificates may be used for one new registration and one transfer of registration provided they are within the two months or 2000 kilometres limit, whichever comes first. A new safety certificate is required each time you sell the vehicle even if it is within the two months or 2000 kilometres. A single safety certificate cannot be used for two transfers.

[B18C5-Civic]

UPDATE: Did Revs Check -
Kms were: 249401
RoadWC : 249401
Current: 249433

So im guessing he did 32kms with the stock engine before he put the b18c5 in it.. or they have wound the clock foward?

[Streetcruising Brian]

Why would they wind the clock forward?

You just need to ring the bloke who did the roadie and tell him it is defective.
If they changed the tyres after the roadie, you wont have any luck there. Just buy
new ones.
If the mechanic who did the roadie wont help you, just ring DOT as stated above.
You really have no other alternative but to wear the costs yourself or drive a dodgey
car. If they missed that stuff, god knows what else they missed that you don't know
about yet.

[CUBES]

hawkiiie, on 09 September 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

Dragin, on 09 September 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

it is against the law to change or modify a car for 3 months after the rwc is issued.
forget the guy who you bought the car from you are not going to get anywhere with him.
if i were you id take the car to another inspection station,pay for an rwc(tell them your selling it)
then contact the origonal issuer with the faults.if he does nothing you may need to get transport involved.
chances are the guy who sold you the car knows these people and will get reemed by the inspection station.
if not they will have to rectify any faults or face having their licence canceled.

where does it say that for 3 months after a rwc your not aloud any mods?

as far as i was aware rwc was just to get rego and its defect proof for x amount of time...

although correct me if im wrong

I would say if you mod it while trying to sell it with a roady, you would have to get a new roady after the new mod

[shana]

Cherp_32, on 09 September 2010 - 10:37 PM, said:

UPDATE: Did Revs Check -
Kms were: 249401
RoadWC : 249401
Current: 249433

So im guessing he did 32kms with the stock engine before he put the b18c5 in it.. or they have wound the clock foward?

Did you not do this before you bought the car?

And/or check to make sure the car was as said in add before you drove away with it (eg, re tyres etc)

[B18C5-Civic]

Called mechanic this arvo, he asked me to bring it in thursday to let him have a look at it, im going to take a picture of the kms on the car and todays date so that he cant try anything dodgy

[11SLI]

The guy who sold you the car has nothing to be worried about...
Fair enough he should feel guilty for selling you the car knowing what was wrong etc, but its not up to him to worry about anything once paperwork is signed and paid, its stiff shit really...

Call up the RWC guy on the paperwork and report him if your that concerned about it all, as he will have his ass kicked and their RWC license looked at!

[B18C5-Civic]

11SLI, on 10 September 2010 - 10:21 PM, said:

The guy who sold you the car has nothing to be worried about...
Fair enough he should feel guilty for selling you the car knowing what was wrong etc, but its not up to him to worry about anything once paperwork is signed and paid, its stiff shit really...

Call up the RWC guy on the paperwork and report him if your that concerned about it all, as he will have his ass kicked and their RWC license looked at!

Yeah i did, taking it back to him thursday, the horn doesnt even work.. haha great dodgy RWC. probly a phoneworthy